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slabmort
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*pls* vreau sa ma indrumati!
scris pe 9 nov 2004 00:20 de slabmort
Care puteti sa-mi spuneti cum sa incep sa cresc in greutate, am ceva idee cu culturismul. Ma apuc de sala si nu stiu cu ce sa incep, dc sa-mi dau comanda? Eu ma gandeam sa-mi iau proteine (mega mass4000), gainfast(ala pt masa rapida), creatina si niste animal pak dinalea. Nu e o problema cascavalu pt mine asa ca pot sa-mi iau orice. Eu sunt un pustan de 17 ani, 1m.80 aproape si 54 kg. La alimentatie m-am gandit sa bag in mine zi de zi numai vita, pork si pui + garnituri Am un prieten care in 3 luni a mincat de a rupt si a bagat tot timpul proteine in el, acum pot sa zic ca arata chiar bine... avea cu cateva kile in plus fatza de mine... Vreau sa am o explozie acum in masa si dupaia sa o reglez putin cate putin pt mentinere... Nu ma lasati amanet si arunkati cateva sfaturi! thanks.
skinny' 
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redline
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Re: *pls* vreau sa ma indrumati!
scris pe 9 nov 2004 15:26 de redline
Suplimente:
1). Vitamine/Minerale (Animal Pak ar fi ideal)
2). Weight-Gainer (ProLab N-Large2)
3). Creatina Fosfat (Weider sau Bio CPX).
4). Milk&Egg (Universal, sau orice altul bun si ProNutrition e bun).
Dimineata ia 1 pachet de animal pak + 2 cupe de N-Large.
Inainte cu 2, 1,5 ore de antrenament ia 5 grame de Cretina. Dupa antrenament 3 cupe de N-Large. Seara inainte de culcare 2 cupe de Milk&Egg.
In rest manca bine, la fiecare 2 maxim 3 ore. Incearca sa ajungi la 7-8 mese pe zi (asta incluzand si suplimentele). Deci 4-5 mese solide si 3 de suplimente. Fa un antrenament scurt cu intensitate mare (ci nu volum). Spor la treaba.
Redline
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Cheeter
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Re: Re: *pls* vreau sa ma indrumati!
scris pe 11 nov 2004 19:48 de Cheeter
Mananca mai mult, adik mananci pana nu mai pot, dupa care mai bagi inca ceva..si eu de ex mananc penultima oara la ora 11..si ultima oara la ora 2 noaptea. Nu e sanatos sa nu dormi daca vrei sa cresti in masa, dar deh... si ia cat mai multe prafuri, pastile, etc, daca nu ai bani sa iei ce a zis redline, incearca cu produse gen gigantptomass sau creatina monohidrata de la biotech + vitamine (multivit de la SUA parca). Eu asta iau, si am crescut ceva in ultimul timp
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Anonim
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Re: Re: *pls* vreau sa ma indrumati!
scris pe 11 nov 2004 19:57 de Anonim
Suplimente:
1). Vitamine/Minerale (Animal Pak ar fi ideal)
2). Weight-Gainer (ProLab N-Large2)
3). Creatina Fosfat (Weider sau Bio CPX).
4). Milk&Egg (Universal, sau orice altul bun si ProNutrition e bun).
Dimineata ia 1 pachet de animal pak + 2 cupe de N-Large.
Inainte cu 2, 1,5 ore de antrenament ia 5 grame de Cretina. Dupa antrenament 3 cupe de N-Large. Seara inainte de culcare 2 cupe de Milk&Egg.
In rest manca bine, la fiecare 2 maxim 3 ore. Incearca sa ajungi la 7-8 mese pe zi (asta incluzand si suplimentele). Deci 4-5 mese solide si 3 de suplimente. Fa un antrenament scurt cu intensitate mare (ci nu volum). Spor la treaba.
slabmort...vezi ca ti-am raspuns la "Alimentatie".
redline...gandeste inainte sa vorbesti...cum sa recomanzi produse pe baza de prohormoni (animal pack) unui incepator ? ce pielea mea...
prohormonii au cam aceleasi reactii adverse ca si stero, dar sunt mult mai slabi ca efecte benefice.
eu zic sa te bazeze pe produse naturale, nu pe cele care stimuleaza secretia de testosteron, etc.
redline...baiatule...atentie ce recomanzi data viitoare 8)
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Morpheus
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Re: Re: *pls* vreau sa ma indrumati!
scris pe 11 nov 2004 19:57 de Morpheus
Suplimente:
1). Vitamine/Minerale (Animal Pak ar fi ideal)
2). Weight-Gainer (ProLab N-Large2)
3). Creatina Fosfat (Weider sau Bio CPX).
4). Milk&Egg (Universal, sau orice altul bun si ProNutrition e bun).
Dimineata ia 1 pachet de animal pak + 2 cupe de N-Large.
Inainte cu 2, 1,5 ore de antrenament ia 5 grame de Cretina. Dupa antrenament 3 cupe de N-Large. Seara inainte de culcare 2 cupe de Milk&Egg.
In rest manca bine, la fiecare 2 maxim 3 ore. Incearca sa ajungi la 7-8 mese pe zi (asta incluzand si suplimentele). Deci 4-5 mese solide si 3 de suplimente. Fa un antrenament scurt cu intensitate mare (ci nu volum). Spor la treaba.
slabmort...vezi ca ti-am raspuns la "Alimentatie".
redline...gandeste inainte sa vorbesti...cum sa recomanzi produse pe baza de prohormoni (animal pack) unui incepator ? ce pielea mea...
prohormonii au cam aceleasi reactii adverse ca si stero, dar sunt mult mai slabi ca efecte benefice.
eu zic sa te bazeze pe produse naturale, nu pe cele care stimuleaza secretia de testosteron, etc.
redline...baiatule...atentie ce recomanzi data viitoare 8)
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Anonim
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Re: Re: Re: *pls* vreau sa ma indrumati!
scris pe 18 nov 2004 20:45 de Anonim
bah voi chiar sunteti tampiti. animal stak contine prohormoni, nu animal pak.
iata o lista cu prohormoni(ca sa va faceti o idee):
(i) androstanediol--
(I) 3b,17b-dihydroxy-5a-androstane; and
`(II) 3a,17b-dihydroxy-5a-androstane;
`(ii) androstanedione (5a-androstan-3,17-dione);
`(iii) androstenediol--
`(I) 1-androstenediol (3b,17b-dihydroxy-5a-androst-1-ene);
`(II) 1-androstenediol (3a,17b-dihydroxy-5a-androst-1-ene);
`(III) 4-androstenediol (3b,17b-dihydroxy-androst-4-ene); and
`(IV) 5-androstenediol (3b,17b-dihydroxy-androst-5-ene);
`(iv) androstenedione--
`(I) 1-androstenedione ([5a]-androst-1-en-3,17-dione);
`(II) 4-androstenedione (androst-4-en-3,17-dione); and
`(III) 5-androstenedione (androst-5-en-3,17-dione);
`(v) bolasterone (7a,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one);
`(vi) boldenone (17b-hydroxyandrost-1,4,-diene-3-one);
`(vii) calusterone (7b,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one);
`(viii) clostebol (4-chloro-17b-hydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one);
`(ix) dehydrochloromethyltestosterone (4-chloro-17b-hydroxy-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-dien-3-one);
`(x) *1-dihydrotestosterone (a.k.a. `1-testosterone') (17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-3-one);
`(xi) 4-dihydrotestosterone (17b-hydroxy-androstan-3-one);
`(xii) drostanolone (17b-hydroxy-2a-methyl-5a-androstan-3-one);
`(xiii) ethylestrenol (17a-ethyl-17b-hydroxyestr-4-ene);
`(xiv) fluoxymesterone (9-fluoro-17a-methyl-11b,17b-dihydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one);
`(xv) formebolone (2-formyl-17a-methyl-11a,17b-dihydroxyandrost-1,4-dien-3-one );
`(xvi) furazabol (17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyandrostano[2,3-c]-furazan);
`(xvii) 13b-ethyl-17a-hydroxygon-4-en-3-one;
`(xviii) 4-hydroxytestosterone (4,17b-dihydroxy-androst-4-en-3-one);
`(xix) 4-hydroxy-19-nortestosterone (4,17b-dihydroxy-estr-4-en-3-one);
`(xx) mestanolone (17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one);
`(xxi) mesterolone (1a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-[5a]-androstan-3-one);
`(xxii) methandienone (17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyandrost-1,4-dien-3-one);
`(xxiii) methandriol (17a-methyl-3b,17b-dihydroxyandrost-5-ene);
`(xxiv) methenolone (1-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-3-one);
`(xxv) 17a-methyl-3b, 17b-dihydroxy-5a-androstane;
`(xxvi) 17a-methyl-3a,17b-dihydroxy-5a-androstane;
`(xxvii) 17a-methyl-3b,17b-dihydroxyandrost-4-ene.
`(xxviii) 17a-methyl-4-hydroxynandrolone (17a-methyl-4-hydroxy-17b-hydroxyestr-4-en-3-one);
`(xxix) methyldienolone (17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyestra-4,9(10)-dien-3-one);
`(xxx) methyltrienolone (17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyestra-4,9-11-trien-3-one);
`(xxxi) methyltestosterone (17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one);
`(xxxii) mibolerone (7a,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxyestr-4-en-3-one);
`(xxxiii) 17a-methyl-*1-dihydrotestosterone (17b-hydroxy-17a-methyl-5a-androst-1-en-3-one) (a.k.a. `17-a-methyl-1-testosterone');
`(xxxiv) nandrolone (17b-hydroxyestr-4-en-3-one);
`(xxxv) norandrostenediol--
`(I) 19-nor-4-androstenediol (3b, 17b-dihydroxyestr-4-ene);
`(II) 19-nor-4-androstenediol (3a, 17b-dihydroxyestr-4-ene);
`(III) 19-nor-5-androstenediol (3b, 17b-dihydroxyestr-5-ene); and
`(IV) 19-nor-5-androstenediol (3a, 17b-dihydroxyestr-5-ene);
`(xxxvi) norandrostenedione--
`(I) 19-nor-4-androstenedione (estr-4-en-3,17-dione); and
`(II) 19-nor-5-androstenedione (estr-5-en-3,17-dione;
`(xxxvii) norbolethone (13b,17a-diethyl-17b-hydroxygon-4-en-3-one);
`(xxxviii) norclostebol (4-chloro-17b-hydroxyestr-4-en-3-one);
`(xxxix) norethandrolone (17a-ethyl-17b-hydroxyestr-4-en-3-one);
`(xl) normethandrolone (17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyestr-4-en-3-one);
`(xli) oxandrolone (17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-2-oxa-[5a]-androstan-3-one);
`(xlii) oxymesterone (17a-methyl-4,17b-dihydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one);
`(xliii) oxymetholone (17a-methyl-2-hydroxymethylene-17b-hydroxy-[5a]-androstan-3- one);
`(xliv) stanozoloL (17a-methyl-17a-hydroxy-[5a]-androst-2-eno[3,2-c]-pyrazole);
`(xlv) stenbolone (17b-hydroxy-2-methyl-[5a]-androst-1-en-3-one);
`(xlvi) testolactone (13-hydroxy-3-oxo-13,17-secoandrosta-1,4-dien-17-oic acid lactone);
`(xlvii) testosterone (17b-hydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one);
`(xlviii) tetrahydrogestrinone (13b,17a-diethyl-17b-hydroxygon-4,9,11-trien-3-one);
`(xlix) trenbolone (17b-hydroxyestr-4,9,11-trien-3-one)
Animal pak contine urmatoarele:
Calories: 16
Total Carbohydrates: 1g
Protein: 3g
Vitamin A: 9900IU
(as acetate & 66% as beta-carotene)
Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid): 1g
Vitamin D (as ergocalciferol): 680IU
Vitamin E: 300IU
(as d-a-tocopheryl acetate)
Thiamin: 76mg
(as thiamin HCl)
Riboflavin: 76mg
Niacin (as niacinamide): 82mg
Vitamin B6: 72mg
(as pyridoxine HCl)
Folic Acid: 400mcg
Vitamin B12: 6mcg
(as cyanocobalamin)
Biotin: 300mcg
Pantothenic Acid: 76mg
(as calcium pantothenate) Calcium (as citrate, carbonate): 2g
Phosphorus: 228mg
(as calcium phosphate)
Iodine (from kelp): 150mcg
Magnesium (as oxide): 133mg
Zinc (as oxide): 30mg
Selenium (as selenite): 50mcg
Copper (as sulfate): 600mcg
Manganese (as sulfate): 11mg
Chromium (as picolinate): 6mcg
Potassium (as sulfate): 200mg
Amino Acid Blend:
Lysine (from lactalbumin): 300mg
Methionine: 500mg
(from lactalbumin)
Leucine (from lactalbumin): 100mg
Valine (from lactalbumin): 760mg
Threonine (from lactalbumin): 48mg
Glutamic Acid: 700mg
(from lactalbumin)
Phenylalanine: 560mg
(from lactalbumin)
Arginine (as L-arginine)
Performance Optimizers:
Siberian Ginseng (root): 2g
Oriental Ginseng (root): 250mg
Smilax officinalis (root): 500mg
Protogen A (as thioctic acid): 200mg
Inosine: 500mg
(as hypoxanthine riboside)
Pyridoxine a-Ketoglutarate (PAK): 200mg
Carnitine (as L-carnitine): 25mg
Chromium Picolinate: 50mcg
Coenzyme A: 20mg
Coenzyme B12: 10mg
Phosphatidylcholine: 200mg
Para-Aminobenzoic Acid (PABA): 400mg
Colostrum (bovine): 25mg
Argentine Liver (bovinr): 3.9g
Shark Cartilage: 1g
Choline Complex: 1.2g
Bioflavonoids (citrus): 1g
Essential Fatty Acid Complex:
Linoleic Acid: 200mg
Oleic Acid: 100mg
Digestive Enzymes:
Betaine HCl: 200mg
Pepsin: 64mg
Papain: 64mg
Ox Bile (bovine): 120mg
Pancreatin: 700mg
Mycozyme: 64mg
Other Ingredients:
Maltodextrin, calcium sulfate, choline citrate, magnesium stearate, stearic acid, parsley, goldenseal, don quai, burdock, alfalfa, water cress, rice bran, cellulose, and rose hips.
Contains no suger, starch, artificial preservatives or colors.
ASA CA NU MAI FITI IDIOTI SI INTERESATI-VA INAINTE SA VORBITI!
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